Similarly, Dalits, Patidars and OBCs have come together as all consider themselves victims of the so-called Gujarat model of development. I agree there are social, cultural and economic contradictions between the Dalits, Patidars and OBCs. But now the principal contradiction is with the BJP. The BJP is our common enemy and that has united us.
I also agree that our contradictions would sooner or later surface. It does look improbable that Surat’s safai karmacharis and the city’s traders would have similar demands. In rural areas, there are contradictions between farmers and landless labourers. But, at the current juncture, the discontent on the streets and markets of Gujarat is unprecedented. Patidar and Dalit youths have disrupted nearly a dozen public meetings of (BJP president) Amit Shah and (Prime Minister) Narendra Modi. An Aanganwadi worker stopped the convoy of the PM and threw bangles at his vehicle, and a BJP corporator in Vadodara was beaten up by local women.
This Gujarat government has not lived up to Modi’s claim of ‘sabka saath, sabka vikas’ (together with all, development for all). It is wedded to the interests of big money.
What is your assessment of the assembly election?
While it is always difficult to forecast an election result, there has been substantial consolidation of anti-BJP votes. I believe the BJP would be wiped out in rural Gujarat. It has tried to reach out to traders in urban areas by recent goods and services tax (GST)-related announcements. But, in urban areas as well, its seat tally might come down from 55 of the 60 urban seats it had won in 2012 to 35-40 seats this time. I believe BJP is unlikely to cross 80-seats (of the 182-seats).
However, I also believe a free and fair election is difficult. It has become a question of BJP’s prestige to win Gujarat. They would go to any extent. If they lose Gujarat, they know they will lose India. Their corporate backers, who have invested in the current BJP leadership, will also support them to the hilt.
So, are you campaigning for the Congress?
We are not campaigning for any party. We are appealing the people to vote against the BJP, not vote for the Congress. BJP is different from most other political parties. I believe it is a fascist regime. Unlike the others, the BJP wishes to amend the Constitution and thrust a ‘Hindu Rashtra’ on us.
Our movement has not shared the platform with any other political party, not even the Congress. We have our independent identity. If any other party comes to power or contests on 182-seats, we will question them on where they stand on Dalit issues. We have also asked Congress Vice-President Rahul Gandhi where he stands on Dalit issues. We are not going to contest elections. I have not demanded tickets for myself or my associates.
The next stage of our campaign is from November 26, the Constitution Day, to December 6, the death anniversary of Babasaheb (B R Ambedkar). We will visit assembly constituencies reserved for Scheduled Castes, and also some of those reserved for Scheduled Tribes. Hardik Patel will also join me. The campaign will culminate with a public rally in Ahmedabad on December 6, where we expect in excess of 50,000 people to gather. These will be landless labourers, farmers, Dalits, Patidars and all communities which feel they have been victims of the ‘Gujarat model’.
Prime Minister Modi is expected to address several rallies across Gujarat? Wouldn’t that change the narrative?
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Modi has already addressed three rallies and visited Gujarat at least 10 times in the past few months. But, his public rallies have not clicked.
The BJP’s other planks, including ‘vikas’ (development) have not clicked. Hardik Patel’s purported sex CD has not clicked. Now, they are relying on the communal card. We are telling people that they should ask BJP leaders about the price of diesel and petrol, not Ram temple. We have exposed the hoax that this ‘Gujarat model’ is. I challenge Modi, Shah and Rupani to have a debate with Hardik, Alpesh and myself on the issue of development.
Where do you stand on the Patidar community’s demand for reservations?
I do not have clarity on the issue. You would need to ask constitutional experts on whether and how it can be done. But, there is a larger question to this issue. Whether it’s the Gujjars in Rajasthan, Marathas in Maharashtra and Patels in Gujarat, all of whom want reservation; and the Dalits and OBCs, who already have reservation – all of us need to ask the PM about the promise he made in 2014 of creating 20 million jobs a year. We need to question the government on basic issues of roti, kapda aur makan (food and shelter), price rise and corruption, and not allow them to divert attention by some purported CD of Hardik.
What is your future political strategy? Are you ruling out joining electoral politics?
Post Una, our movement has given a sense of empowerment to the Dalit community. There is generally a feeling among Dalits that the ‘manuwadi’ (loosely upper caste dominated) media doesn’t give Dalit causes any space. But ever since Una, our cause has found a resonance in the media and across the country. The Dalit movement in Gujarat and our issues have been covered widely by the media. It has also been possible because we have an independent identity.
As for future political strategy, I can only say that I would not be rigid. I won’t be politically stuck if only to remain ideologically pure. I hope my politics
remains dynamic, but not for any personal interest and always for the larger good.